 Christina C. Moore |
Supressing the display of medallions... Hello, I would like to surpress the display of EP medallions in my gallery. Since these seem to be somewhat arbitrary, I do not want my photos to be judged based on the presence or absence of such an accolade. Also, I think that it ruins the aesthetics of some of the photos. Is there a way to do this? Thank you,
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Jessica Jenney |
There's no way to do that, Christina. Only with the Deluxe Galleries, not the Premium.
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Christina C. Moore |
Ouch! Maybe I'll need to delete all of my photos and start over...
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Christina C. Moore |
Thank you regardless....
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Nobu Nagase |
Don't give up and email to Betterphoto support asking to implement an option to toggle switch to display or not to display (to suppress the buttons) medallions. They already have similar on/off switches for other things. They will say, "thank you and we will put it on the To-Do list". And that's fine, too. It's normal for in program development and sustaining. I believe there are other people who wishes the same option as you are inquiring.
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Michael Wasson |
So here is my two cents. If you feel they are arbitrary does this mean that you feel any photos you have that recieved EPs were not really that good?
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Christina C. Moore |
Hi Nobi-- Thankyou! I will write them and ask for this feature. Micheal- It is not my intent to get into a discussion on the EPs because it is an old saw that has been going back and forth for sometime now. Suffice it to say, I do not believe that my best efforts are awarded with EPs (and in general think that a lot of really outstanding images are overlooked). Some of my images that have EPs are not as good as some of those that do not have EPs and I might feel that they do not deserve this alcolade. As for your statement "not really that good"-- I do not know where you get this from my question. If I thought an image wasn't good, I would not post it. Indeed, I erase images all the time that I once felt were good, but now know are not so good. Please do not read too much into my question. Thank you.-C
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Christina C. Moore |
This was a simple question on gallery display and no more, please do not twist around into some Christina bash!
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Michael Wasson |
no offense intended. I think you have a beautiful gallery. I'll drop it now.
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Christina C. Moore |
Sorry Michael... I did not mean to snap. It has just been a difficult issue for me, and I have gotten some nasty emails. I really do like getting the EPs, but do not think that they are a reliable index for judging the quality of a photograph, and would rather not have the little medallion thing distracting from the image. I wish you the best.-Christina
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- Dennis Flanagan Contact Dennis Flanagan Dennis Flanagan's Gallery |
If you want to keep the medallions from your gallery, upload two of the same photo. Enter one in the contest and don't click "display" and click "display" on the one you want visible in your gallery without a medallion. Or simply display it and don't enter the contest.
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Sandy Hawkins |
Why enter a contest if you don't hope to be noticed? You could just have a gallery and not enter, but then who would look at it? The medallions are certainly not distracting in any way, but rather draw attention to the fact that the editors liked a particular image. I totally agree that they dump some that I think are great, but it's all a matter of the opinion of the person that judges the image, and I respect that. When I see a gallery with many images and no EPs I usually don't spend too much time looking at it as the quality just isn't there.
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Christina C. Moore |
Good idea Dennis! As for being noticed... I like it just as much as the next photographer (rarely happens, but when it does I do like it). However, it is just that there comes a point when you want to display your work as pure image devoid of all of these stickers and stars. I feel that in my case the EPs are so random, that they detract from my newer images some of which may deserve this sort of recognition more than my older images. I do not know what happened, but there it is. Also, I do not want to judge my own work nor have my work judged by the presence or absence of these bells and whistles. Finally, some of my work has a certain mood that is disrupted by the medallion. Regards-C2
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Christina C. Moore |
As for the quality not being there... you might not be looking hard enough. Many people have a unique vision-- but may be novice in terms of technique. Also, there tends to be a "type" of effort that is awarded here at BP. Photographers who do not shoot within this formula are not always rewarded. When you ignore a gallery simply because it has no stickers than you may be missing a truly innovative effort, and effort that challenges your own way of looking at photography. However, my question was about "how" and not about "why". Regards, C2
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher  Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
I agree it would be nice to at least be able to distinguish between the EFP's and the finalist/winner buttons..display finalist/winners and not display EFP buttons if that's what you want. I asked them about this a while back and they asked me didn't I like the EFP buttons. I said I did like them, but for the same reasons Christina stated I'd rather not have the EFP's showing, just the finalist/winners. Anyway, it kind of got dropped after that, and I never heard any more about it. You can stop them from showing, but it's either everything or nothing.
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- Irene Colling Contact Irene Colling Irene Colling's Gallery |
Christina, I hope you don't mind if I use your thread to reply to Sandy. Most likely the majority of photographers who post photos on BP also enter the contest. But there are some of us who have no medallions because we just don't enter the contest. I have my images on BP so that I can share photos with friends and family. I don't need confirmation from a judging panel to assess the quality of my work. I'll let my viewers judge for themselves whether a particular photo has merit.
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Sandy Hawkins |
Hi Irene, If you aren't entering the contest and therefore not getting the EP badges why would it matter about those of us that do enter and enjoy getting our badges? Since you don't enter you won't ever have to deal with them...that works out great for you, but most of us that enter do want our badges. There's a thread about that right now because of the recent changes and almost every single person wants those badges displayed.
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Christina C. Moore |
Hello Sandy and Irene, I don't think that the question is about whether or not badges are good or bad. While there are times when I feel that there is something arbitrary about the badges, I do enjoy getting them and am grateful for the acknowledgement. I think that the issue here is about customization. I simply would rather have my images stand on their own, badge or no badge. I do not want people to look at my gallery and say-- this image must be good and this one bad simply because of the badges... In short, I want to be defined based on my artistic merits not based on the number of stickers that I have in my sticker book. Also, Sandy-- I think that Irene may have been reacting to the comment that you made in regards to galleries that do not have editor's picks, that such galleries lack quality images and thus (as you implied) are not worth looking at. While I do respect your opinion, I think that such an assumption may not be good in terms of fostering creative growth. I know that people are going to hate me for saying this, but there IS a certain formula that is rewarded (and taught) here at BP. Also, for some reason, certain photographers get less EPs than others, regardless of comparable merits. Maybe, these people like Irene simply do not enter the contests. I don't know how or why it works this way-- but there it is. Also, just because an image is not EP worthy does not mean that it does not have something to commend it or that it does not have something to teach. Thus, ignoring any gallery is a mistake in my book. Regards-C2 P.S. I like the new gallery and the fact that badges are NOT displayed... Personally, I feel that BP gave out way to may badges at the beginning, and then at some point last year abruptly started to give out too few badges creating inconsitencies. The result is galleries where mediocre images have received badges while truly good images have been overlooked.
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Sandy Hawkins |
I see the same thing in dog shows all the time. People that aren't winning complain about AKC points, etc. I just chalk it up to sour grapes. For anyone that doesn't want the badges or doesn't want to enter that is FINE, but most of us enjoy the wins...I have no problem admitting that I do. I also agree that they do overlook some good images and give awards to some that aren't that good, but those decisions are subjective to the judge of the day...and I respect that.
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
I don't know that most people have a problem with the badges, just the all or nothing approach to displaying them. They had it so my finalist and winner badges wouldn't display without the EFP badges...then when you look at the site, here's a perfectly good (IMO) shot floating around in a sea of EFP/Finalist/Winner badges with nothing under it..Your eye goes right to it,thinking about what's wrong with that one instead of what's right with the other ones. I know I have no business complaining, since I've been doing pretty well with the EFP's, so I've just been taking the ones that didn't get one off display. And some of them are favorites of mine. I don't know if I explained that very well, but that's what I think about the whole thing!
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Sandy Hawkins |
That's a great explanation, Carolyn. I also take most off that don't get EPs, but I do leave some. I love my little orangutan, and for the life of me don't understand how they dumped him, but oh well. I will likely re-enter him in a month or so. I just think it's odd to see entire pages of lovely images and have no idea how they did in the contest. I mean isn't that why we enter...to win?
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- Carolyn M. Fletcher Contact Carolyn M. Fletcher Carolyn M. Fletcher's Gallery |
Well, it used to be, but now without second place, we better be in it for the finalists, because I doubt if there will be a bunch of wins for most of us.
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Christina C. Moore |
Okay Sandy. You are again misunderstanding what I am trying to say. Just as you choose to display your badges proudly, I would like to choose not to display them. I am not trying to deprive anyone who wishes from displaying their badges. I am simply asking for the option to customise so that my badges would not diplay. It is not about my frustrations at not getting EPs, but rather about the possibility of displaying all of my images on an equal footing. Also, I like the look of a clean page of photographs. Personally, I could care less about someone's dog points and do not know why this is relevant. You seem to be trying to turn this thread into something that it is not and it is getting a bit irritating. In short, It is not about sour grapes, it is rather about red grapes, white grapes, table grapes, etc... However, you will undoubtedly read things to suit your personal agenda.-C2
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Christina C. Moore |
Also, I simply do not think that you can judge a photographer's work based on his or her number of medallions. Actually, I simply think that it is a dangerous approach to creativity.-C2
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Sandy Hawkins |
This will be my last entry to this ridiculous thread. If you don't want a badge and want your page to be "clean" just don't enter...it's kind of simple!
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Christina C. Moore |
If you want to fight please start your own thread. I simply asked whether or not there was a way to turn off the medallion feature. It was a "how" not a "why" question. However, you seem to be somehow mysteriously threatened by this request, threatened enough to use my question as a personal soap box. I really have no opinion about the EPs other than that I think that they are in some cases arbitrary. Also, just because I do not want to medallions to display does not mean that I should not enter the contest. I asked a simple question about the folio layout. If this thread became ridiculous it is only because you seem to have something to prove. I am glad that you are no longer responding. It is my thread, and I do appreciate all of the constructive suggestions that I received regarding this issue. Sandy take a hike!
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Christina C. Moore |
I do have to add that I think that the EPs are arbitray in the sense that there are some spectacular images that do not get EPs. While there are still some images in my opinion that do not quite warrent the designation, mostly I think the problem lies with images that are overlooked. Okay-- Now this thread is about the EPs!
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Sharon Day |
This can be the most interesting site on the internet :o). It's funny how people get all upset if they "perceive" a post as being negative. I didn't view this question as negative in the least but so what if it was? BP is not and will never be prefect and just because someone has a question or a suggestion shouldn't stir hateful responses. I think I understand those that behave in such a manner and it's pointless. Totally pointless.
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Christina C. Moore |
Thank you Sharon. It is pretty obvious what happened based on her response to Irene's post as well as to my posts. I think that some people do not really read (or hear) what others are trying to say, but rather are eager to jump in with their own observations regardless of how irrelevant or inflammatory. I hope that Sandy does not have bad feelings about this stream as it resulted in a simple misunderstanding. However, I do urge her to actually read the posts that she is responding to. Also, I have to understand that while I may not be heavily invested in the medals, others certainly are. That's okay-- there are lots of valid reasons to participate in online photography. I wish you all the best.-C2
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Vicki Petko |
Hi Christina, thanks for the suggestion. We now have the ability to display or not display Editor's Picks emblems, Photo of the Day, Contest Winner, and Member Favorites (the little heart) graphics. Just go to your Basic BetterPholio admin page and scroll down to toggle the display of these graphics. This only applies to the new version of the Basic BetterPholio.
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Christina C. Moore |
WONDERFUL SERVICE! Thank you!
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